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    <title>Altered Mates - Episodes Tagged with “Robert Anton Wilson”</title>
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    <description>Altered Mates is a podcast where two mates, each fascinated by altered states, meet to discuss the psychedelic experience and its implications for society, culture, health, science, and philosophy. Alejandro is novelist and a teacher of english and psychology. Tobias is an academic and a lecturer in social work and psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. Our conversations are always grounded in our own direct experiences with a range of ‘altered’ states of consciousness. Hero of the podcast, William James, suggests that, “Our normal waking consciousness… is but one special type of consciousness, whilst all about it, parted from it by the filmiest of screens, there lie potential forms of consciousness entirely different… No account of the universe in its totality can be final which leaves these other forms of consciousness quite disregarded.” You could say that we are trying to construct a better account of our universe, and we are taking James’ advice to heart, by seriously regarding those “other” forms of consciousness. Through our research and our subsequent discussions, we seek to find, update, and/or create, working models of the mind, and of reality, that help us to make sense of our world. We endeavour to integrate our own psychedelic experiences through the power of conversation. But we also seek to integrate the revelations of “the” psychedelic experience, and come to terms with the implications, from cultural, philosophical, and spiritual perspectives. Having said all that, we’re also just two normal blokes who enjoy each other’s company. And our fancy Socratic dialogues are filtered through our own unique brand of Australian banter. After all, we’re just two mates trying to enjoy our limited time on this planet, and to create a more meaningful life for ourselves and our community while we’re here.</description>
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  <title>Episode 31: Robert Anton Wilson, Consciousness Change and the 8-Circuit Model of Consciousness</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we discuss a recording of Robert Anton Wilson titled “Consciousness Change, And The Eight-Circuit Model Of Human Consciousness.”</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode we discuss an interview with one of Alejandro’s heroes and most significant influences, Robert Anton Wilson. We give a brief introduction to Wilson’s life and briefly touch on a few important concepts: reality tunnels, the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, and attachment theory, before we unpack Leary and Wilson’s 8 Circuit Model of Human Consciousness. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In 2001, Wilson recorded a long-form, 6 hour interview, with Michael Taft, which gave him the opportunity to dive into his various areas of interest, including language &amp;amp; reality, conscious change, and politics &amp;amp; conspiracy theory. The recording is called “Robert Anton Wilson Explains Everything (Or Old Bob Exposes His Ignorance)”, and it provides an excellent introduction to Wilson's life and ideas. In today’s episode, we discuss Session Three from this recording, titled “Consciousness Change, And The Eight-Circuit Model Of Human Consciousness.” &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;References&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.soundstrue.com/products/robert-anton-wilson-explains-everything?srsltid=AfmBOoplQ1oIURvUtolaBKMzE6Or_Pot9FP4LFXsIqoW8ozBzLqud9ch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Robert Anton Wilson Explains Everything: Or, Old Bob Exposes His Ignorance&lt;/a&gt;: Session Three - Consciousness Change, And The Eight-Circuit Model Of Human Consciousness (2001)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robert Anton Wilson — &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Prometheus-Rising-Robert-Anton-Wilson/dp/0692710604" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Prometheus Rising&lt;/a&gt; (1983)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robert Anton Wilson — &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Cosmic-Trigger-Final-Secret-Illuminati/dp/0692513973" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Cosmic Trigger I&lt;/a&gt; (1977)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alfred Korzybski — &lt;a href="https://shop.generalsemantics.org/products/science-and-sanity-an-introduction-to-non-aristotelian-systems-and-general-semantics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Science and Sanity&lt;/a&gt; (1933)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Susan Blackmore — &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/0195179595?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_au" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Conversations on Consciousness&lt;/a&gt; (2007)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alejandro Tuama — &lt;a href="https://substack.com/home/post/p-167919417" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Occurrence at Herdsman’s Lake&lt;/a&gt; (2025)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Grant Morrison — &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAS0lfwUFyM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Live at DisInfo Convention 2000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Grant Morrison — Pop Magic! — from &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Book-Lies-Richard-Metzger/dp/097139427X" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and the Occult&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Altered Mates — &lt;a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Episode 11 — Giving LSD to kids! (…to treat severe childhood schizophrenia)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.alteredmates.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Altered Mates Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/altered.mates/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Altered Mates Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Altered Mates &lt;a href="https://alteredmates.substack.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Substack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Altered Mates &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/AlteredMates?utm_medium=unknown&amp;amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;amp;utm_content=copyLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patreon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Music for the show by &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/wildmarmalade/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Si Mulumby&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A Glimpse of Eternity by Alejandro Tuama&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Purchase the novel &lt;a href="https://books2read.com/u/m2eWjG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Listen to the serialised audiobook &lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/560595?view=expanded" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss an interview with one of Alejandro’s heroes and most significant influences, Robert Anton Wilson. We give a brief introduction to Wilson’s life and briefly touch on a few important concepts: reality tunnels, the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, and attachment theory, before we unpack Leary and Wilson’s 8 Circuit Model of Human Consciousness. </p>

<p>In 2001, Wilson recorded a long-form, 6 hour interview, with Michael Taft, which gave him the opportunity to dive into his various areas of interest, including language &amp; reality, conscious change, and politics &amp; conspiracy theory. The recording is called “Robert Anton Wilson Explains Everything (Or Old Bob Exposes His Ignorance)”, and it provides an excellent introduction to Wilson's life and ideas. In today’s episode, we discuss Session Three from this recording, titled “Consciousness Change, And The Eight-Circuit Model Of Human Consciousness.” </p>

<p><strong>References</strong> </p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.soundstrue.com/products/robert-anton-wilson-explains-everything?srsltid=AfmBOoplQ1oIURvUtolaBKMzE6Or_Pot9FP4LFXsIqoW8ozBzLqud9ch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Robert Anton Wilson Explains Everything: Or, Old Bob Exposes His Ignorance</a>: Session Three - Consciousness Change, And The Eight-Circuit Model Of Human Consciousness (2001)</li>
<li>Robert Anton Wilson — <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Prometheus-Rising-Robert-Anton-Wilson/dp/0692710604" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Prometheus Rising</a> (1983)</li>
<li>Robert Anton Wilson — <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Cosmic-Trigger-Final-Secret-Illuminati/dp/0692513973" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cosmic Trigger I</a> (1977)</li>
<li>Alfred Korzybski — <a href="https://shop.generalsemantics.org/products/science-and-sanity-an-introduction-to-non-aristotelian-systems-and-general-semantics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Science and Sanity</a> (1933)</li>
<li>Susan Blackmore — <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/0195179595?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_au" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Conversations on Consciousness</a> (2007)</li>
<li>Alejandro Tuama — <a href="https://substack.com/home/post/p-167919417" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Occurrence at Herdsman’s Lake</a> (2025)</li>
<li>Grant Morrison — <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAS0lfwUFyM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Live at DisInfo Convention 2000</a></li>
<li>Grant Morrison — Pop Magic! — from <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Book-Lies-Richard-Metzger/dp/097139427X" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and the Occult</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 11 — Giving LSD to kids! (…to treat severe childhood schizophrenia)</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Links</strong></p>

<p><a href="https://www.alteredmates.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Altered Mates Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/altered.mates/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Altered Mates Instagram</a></p>

<p>Altered Mates <a href="https://alteredmates.substack.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Substack</a></p>

<p>Altered Mates <a href="https://patreon.com/AlteredMates?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patreon</a></p>

<p>Music for the show by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wildmarmalade/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Si Mulumby</a></p>

<p><strong>A Glimpse of Eternity by Alejandro Tuama</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Purchase the novel <a href="https://books2read.com/u/m2eWjG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
<li>Listen to the serialised audiobook <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/560595?view=expanded" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss an interview with one of Alejandro’s heroes and most significant influences, Robert Anton Wilson. We give a brief introduction to Wilson’s life and briefly touch on a few important concepts: reality tunnels, the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, and attachment theory, before we unpack Leary and Wilson’s 8 Circuit Model of Human Consciousness. </p>

<p>In 2001, Wilson recorded a long-form, 6 hour interview, with Michael Taft, which gave him the opportunity to dive into his various areas of interest, including language &amp; reality, conscious change, and politics &amp; conspiracy theory. The recording is called “Robert Anton Wilson Explains Everything (Or Old Bob Exposes His Ignorance)”, and it provides an excellent introduction to Wilson's life and ideas. In today’s episode, we discuss Session Three from this recording, titled “Consciousness Change, And The Eight-Circuit Model Of Human Consciousness.” </p>

<p><strong>References</strong> </p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.soundstrue.com/products/robert-anton-wilson-explains-everything?srsltid=AfmBOoplQ1oIURvUtolaBKMzE6Or_Pot9FP4LFXsIqoW8ozBzLqud9ch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Robert Anton Wilson Explains Everything: Or, Old Bob Exposes His Ignorance</a>: Session Three - Consciousness Change, And The Eight-Circuit Model Of Human Consciousness (2001)</li>
<li>Robert Anton Wilson — <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Prometheus-Rising-Robert-Anton-Wilson/dp/0692710604" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Prometheus Rising</a> (1983)</li>
<li>Robert Anton Wilson — <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Cosmic-Trigger-Final-Secret-Illuminati/dp/0692513973" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cosmic Trigger I</a> (1977)</li>
<li>Alfred Korzybski — <a href="https://shop.generalsemantics.org/products/science-and-sanity-an-introduction-to-non-aristotelian-systems-and-general-semantics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Science and Sanity</a> (1933)</li>
<li>Susan Blackmore — <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/0195179595?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_au" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Conversations on Consciousness</a> (2007)</li>
<li>Alejandro Tuama — <a href="https://substack.com/home/post/p-167919417" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Occurrence at Herdsman’s Lake</a> (2025)</li>
<li>Grant Morrison — <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAS0lfwUFyM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Live at DisInfo Convention 2000</a></li>
<li>Grant Morrison — Pop Magic! — from <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Book-Lies-Richard-Metzger/dp/097139427X" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and the Occult</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 11 — Giving LSD to kids! (…to treat severe childhood schizophrenia)</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Links</strong></p>

<p><a href="https://www.alteredmates.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Altered Mates Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/altered.mates/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Altered Mates Instagram</a></p>

<p>Altered Mates <a href="https://alteredmates.substack.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Substack</a></p>

<p>Altered Mates <a href="https://patreon.com/AlteredMates?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patreon</a></p>

<p>Music for the show by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wildmarmalade/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Si Mulumby</a></p>

<p><strong>A Glimpse of Eternity by Alejandro Tuama</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Purchase the novel <a href="https://books2read.com/u/m2eWjG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
<li>Listen to the serialised audiobook <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/560595?view=expanded" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
</ul>]]>
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