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  <title>Episode 35: The Visionary Psyche: Jung's Analytical Psychology and Its Impact on Theories of Shamanic Imagery</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we examine a 2014 paper written by Australian academic Emma Scott titled “The Visionary Psyche: Jung's Analytical Psychology and Its Impact on Theories of Shamanic Imagery”. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode we examine a 2014 paper written by Australian academic Emma Scott titled “The Visionary Psyche: Jung's Analytical Psychology and Its Impact on Theories of Shamanic Imagery”. The paper considers the shaman’s visionary experiences (especially with spirit beings) from the critical viewpoint of Richard Noll’s cognitive approach and Michael Winkelman’s neurophenomenological perspective on shamanism. In her paper, Scott analyses these two approaches in light of Jung’s concepts of the archetypes, the collective unconscious, and the individuation process. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We begin our discussion by trying establish what set of assumptions we each bring to this kind of study, after which we attempt to make sense of the paper and cover Scott’s key arguments. Along the way, of-course, we make time to speculate on how Disney et al is colonising the visionary aspects of the psyche and how AI is colonising the cognitive aspects of the psyche and so we are effectively offloading the entirety of our brain/mind to corporate-machines (as our brains are super effective at conserving energy we are following that to its logical conclusion which is to outsource our whole brain). We draw comparisons between the art of Tolkien and the healing functions of shamans, and we end up discussing Jungian individuation. If you enjoy this conversation, then please check out our Patreon and/or Substack in a week, as we will release an extra hour or so of this discussion over there. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;References&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Emma Scott (2014) &lt;a href="https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/anoc.12020" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Visionary Psyche: Jung’s Analytical Psychology and Its Impact on Theories of Shamanic Imagery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tool — &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8r5rnamdaI" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lipan Conjuring&lt;/a&gt; — 10,000 Days&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ramsey Dukes (1974) — &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/SSOTBME-Revised-essay-Ramsey-Dukes/dp/0904311082" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;S.S.O.T.B.M.E: an essay on magic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Altered Mates — &lt;a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/23" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Episodes 23 — Sex Secrets of the Black Magicians EXPOSED: On Magical Thinking&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Altered Mates — &lt;a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/24" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Episode 24 — MORE Sex Secrets of the Black Magicians EXPOSED!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Richard Noll (1983) &lt;a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/644263" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Shamanism and Schizophrenia: A State-Specific Approach to the "Schizophrenia Metaphor" of Shamanic States&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Altered Mates — &lt;a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/30" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Episode 30 — Where are my minds? On the Left Brain / Right Brain Divide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;J.R.R. Tolkien — &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Lord of the Rings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mike Judge (2006) &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Idiocracy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Andrew Stanton (2008) &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WALL-E" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;WALL-E&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ursula Le Guin (1968) &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wizard_of_Earthsea" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Wizard of Earthsea&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Altered Mates — &lt;a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/7" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Episode 7 — Jung, The Shadow, and A Wizard of Earthsea&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.alteredmates.com" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Altered Mates Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/altered.mates/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Altered Mates Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Altered Mates &lt;a href="https://alteredmates.substack.com" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Substack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Altered Mates &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/AlteredMates?utm_medium=unknown&amp;amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;amp;utm_content=copyLink" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patreon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Music for the show by &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/wildmarmalade/?hl=en" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Si Mulumby&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A Glimpse of Eternity by Alejandro Tuama&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Purchase the novel &lt;a href="https://books2read.com/u/m2eWjG" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (hard copy, ebook and audiobook).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Listen to the free serialised audiobook &lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/560595?view=expanded" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/li&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we examine a 2014 paper written by Australian academic Emma Scott titled “The Visionary Psyche: Jung's Analytical Psychology and Its Impact on Theories of Shamanic Imagery”. The paper considers the shaman’s visionary experiences (especially with spirit beings) from the critical viewpoint of Richard Noll’s cognitive approach and Michael Winkelman’s neurophenomenological perspective on shamanism. In her paper, Scott analyses these two approaches in light of Jung’s concepts of the archetypes, the collective unconscious, and the individuation process. </p>

<p>We begin our discussion by trying establish what set of assumptions we each bring to this kind of study, after which we attempt to make sense of the paper and cover Scott’s key arguments. Along the way, of-course, we make time to speculate on how Disney et al is colonising the visionary aspects of the psyche and how AI is colonising the cognitive aspects of the psyche and so we are effectively offloading the entirety of our brain/mind to corporate-machines (as our brains are super effective at conserving energy we are following that to its logical conclusion which is to outsource our whole brain). We draw comparisons between the art of Tolkien and the healing functions of shamans, and we end up discussing Jungian individuation. If you enjoy this conversation, then please check out our Patreon and/or Substack in a week, as we will release an extra hour or so of this discussion over there. </p>

<p><strong>References</strong> </p>

<ul>
<li>Emma Scott (2014) <a href="https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/anoc.12020" rel="nofollow noopener">The Visionary Psyche: Jung’s Analytical Psychology and Its Impact on Theories of Shamanic Imagery</a></li>
<li>Tool — <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8r5rnamdaI" rel="nofollow noopener">Lipan Conjuring</a> — 10,000 Days</li>
<li>Ramsey Dukes (1974) — <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/SSOTBME-Revised-essay-Ramsey-Dukes/dp/0904311082" rel="nofollow noopener">S.S.O.T.B.M.E: an essay on magic</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/23" rel="nofollow noopener">Episodes 23 — Sex Secrets of the Black Magicians EXPOSED: On Magical Thinking</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/24" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 24 — MORE Sex Secrets of the Black Magicians EXPOSED!</a></li>
<li>Richard Noll (1983) <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/644263" rel="nofollow noopener">Shamanism and Schizophrenia: A State-Specific Approach to the "Schizophrenia Metaphor" of Shamanic States</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/30" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 30 — Where are my minds? On the Left Brain / Right Brain Divide</a></li>
<li>J.R.R. Tolkien — <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings" rel="nofollow noopener">The Lord of the Rings</a></li>
<li>Mike Judge (2006) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy" rel="nofollow noopener">Idiocracy</a></li>
<li>Andrew Stanton (2008) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WALL-E" rel="nofollow noopener">WALL-E</a></li>
<li>Ursula Le Guin (1968) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wizard_of_Earthsea" rel="nofollow noopener">A Wizard of Earthsea</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/7" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 7 — Jung, The Shadow, and A Wizard of Earthsea</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Links</strong> </p>

<p><a href="https://www.alteredmates.com" rel="nofollow noopener">Altered Mates Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/altered.mates/" rel="nofollow noopener">Altered Mates Instagram</a></p>

<p>Altered Mates <a href="https://alteredmates.substack.com" rel="nofollow noopener">Substack</a></p>

<p>Altered Mates <a href="https://patreon.com/AlteredMates?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink" rel="nofollow noopener">Patreon</a></p>

<p>Music for the show by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wildmarmalade/?hl=en" rel="nofollow noopener">Si Mulumby</a></p>

<p><strong>A Glimpse of Eternity by Alejandro Tuama</strong> </p>

<ul>
<li>Purchase the novel <a href="https://books2read.com/u/m2eWjG" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a> (hard copy, ebook and audiobook).</li>
<li>Listen to the free serialised audiobook <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/560595?view=expanded" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we examine a 2014 paper written by Australian academic Emma Scott titled “The Visionary Psyche: Jung's Analytical Psychology and Its Impact on Theories of Shamanic Imagery”. The paper considers the shaman’s visionary experiences (especially with spirit beings) from the critical viewpoint of Richard Noll’s cognitive approach and Michael Winkelman’s neurophenomenological perspective on shamanism. In her paper, Scott analyses these two approaches in light of Jung’s concepts of the archetypes, the collective unconscious, and the individuation process. </p>

<p>We begin our discussion by trying establish what set of assumptions we each bring to this kind of study, after which we attempt to make sense of the paper and cover Scott’s key arguments. Along the way, of-course, we make time to speculate on how Disney et al is colonising the visionary aspects of the psyche and how AI is colonising the cognitive aspects of the psyche and so we are effectively offloading the entirety of our brain/mind to corporate-machines (as our brains are super effective at conserving energy we are following that to its logical conclusion which is to outsource our whole brain). We draw comparisons between the art of Tolkien and the healing functions of shamans, and we end up discussing Jungian individuation. If you enjoy this conversation, then please check out our Patreon and/or Substack in a week, as we will release an extra hour or so of this discussion over there. </p>

<p><strong>References</strong> </p>

<ul>
<li>Emma Scott (2014) <a href="https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/anoc.12020" rel="nofollow noopener">The Visionary Psyche: Jung’s Analytical Psychology and Its Impact on Theories of Shamanic Imagery</a></li>
<li>Tool — <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8r5rnamdaI" rel="nofollow noopener">Lipan Conjuring</a> — 10,000 Days</li>
<li>Ramsey Dukes (1974) — <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/SSOTBME-Revised-essay-Ramsey-Dukes/dp/0904311082" rel="nofollow noopener">S.S.O.T.B.M.E: an essay on magic</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/23" rel="nofollow noopener">Episodes 23 — Sex Secrets of the Black Magicians EXPOSED: On Magical Thinking</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/24" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 24 — MORE Sex Secrets of the Black Magicians EXPOSED!</a></li>
<li>Richard Noll (1983) <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/644263" rel="nofollow noopener">Shamanism and Schizophrenia: A State-Specific Approach to the "Schizophrenia Metaphor" of Shamanic States</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/30" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 30 — Where are my minds? On the Left Brain / Right Brain Divide</a></li>
<li>J.R.R. Tolkien — <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings" rel="nofollow noopener">The Lord of the Rings</a></li>
<li>Mike Judge (2006) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy" rel="nofollow noopener">Idiocracy</a></li>
<li>Andrew Stanton (2008) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WALL-E" rel="nofollow noopener">WALL-E</a></li>
<li>Ursula Le Guin (1968) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wizard_of_Earthsea" rel="nofollow noopener">A Wizard of Earthsea</a></li>
<li>Altered Mates — <a href="https://www.alteredmates.com/7" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 7 — Jung, The Shadow, and A Wizard of Earthsea</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Links</strong> </p>

<p><a href="https://www.alteredmates.com" rel="nofollow noopener">Altered Mates Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/altered.mates/" rel="nofollow noopener">Altered Mates Instagram</a></p>

<p>Altered Mates <a href="https://alteredmates.substack.com" rel="nofollow noopener">Substack</a></p>

<p>Altered Mates <a href="https://patreon.com/AlteredMates?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink" rel="nofollow noopener">Patreon</a></p>

<p>Music for the show by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wildmarmalade/?hl=en" rel="nofollow noopener">Si Mulumby</a></p>

<p><strong>A Glimpse of Eternity by Alejandro Tuama</strong> </p>

<ul>
<li>Purchase the novel <a href="https://books2read.com/u/m2eWjG" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a> (hard copy, ebook and audiobook).</li>
<li>Listen to the free serialised audiobook <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/560595?view=expanded" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
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